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My use of #Matrix has really plummeted. After the last time that it wiped my bridged #IRC rooms, I decided that it isn't worth the hassle of re-adding them every 30-60 days. So now, have a few Matrix rooms (most of which are completely inactive) and one #Gitter room (bridged, I think, though the plan is for Gitter to speak the Matrix protocol soon).
I left the #Python space and the rooms it contains because one of the admins / moderators was abusive toward a room member.
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Also, whenever I've used #Discord, I've found that finding information is too difficult. You need to load the scrollback for the time period in question, then proceed backward from where you are to the time when the question and answer occurred.
I don't recall there being a search feature, but even if there were, posts don't get their own addressable URIs, so it isn't possible to link that answer as a reference in a public Q&A/FAQ.
So it has almost all the negatives of #IRC, but with a central corporate operator that is incentivized to block external solutions to those negatives. At least with IRC, there are externally operated bouncers and loggers that help solve many of its issues.
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@aab Good to see that @gijs is getting connected. I used to add people I had seen in the #IRC channel (and the connected #XMPP MUC) as contacts, to help extend the network. I should probably get back to that.
(It helps if I spell people's usernames correctly.)
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@aab Good to see that @gis@post.hillenius.net is getting connected. I used to add people I had seen in the #IRC channel (and the connected #XMPP MUC) as contacts, to help extend the network. I should probably get back to that.
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A #VPN provider that I used shut down without much notice (in fact, the only way I found out was that I visited their site months later, trying to figure out why I hadn't been able to connect).
The #hotel I was using had a local provider that blocked #Fediverse instances (including Mastodon.Social), #Diaspora, #XMPP, #IRC, and a certain mail provider that I still use. They did not block: #Facebook, #Twitter, #GMail, or Outlook / #Hotmail
Because I couldn't connect to the VPN, I discovered how many perfectly normal sites were blocked because they weren't on the top 100 list. I went downstairs and informed the front desk that I would be leaving their establishment because of their blocking.
I received a phone call from their networking vendor, who logged into their router and proxy and turned off filtering on a list of about 25 sites they'd blocked.
But the point is, the hotel and its provider cannot be trusted not to fsck with your data. Always use a VPN.
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https://mastodon.social/@mhoye/106546771511613058
It seems that #Freenode registered Libera dot net in order to trick people into using their #IRC network instead of #Libera.Chat's network.
Such scumbags. If you're still using Freenode, what are you waiting for? About the only thing they haven't done yet is publicly expose the identities of IRC users.
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Trying to assist someone in #IRC with software I haven't used in a while. I linked the section in the docs that says what to do, but they don't seem to understand it. (To be fair, the config file can be rather complex for no good reason.)
Tempted to spin up the software for a quick test, in the hope that I can pastebin a working config for them to copy.
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@clacke @lxo
> Any limitation of range of civil discussion on a topic annoys me. It's information suppression. Fascism pretending to have manners
Not wanting to join the conversation, but anyone that has a spouse knows there are some things you cannot say if you want to continue having a good relationship (or perhaps having any relationship at all). The exception is when one party bullies and controls the other party so thoroughly that they fear not that the other party will escape, ending the relationship.
I'm no longer there ( #Freenode ), having moved to the #LiberaChat, #OFTC, and #Rizon #IRC networks. Thus, I do not know whether the rumored "coronavirus is a hoax" / "vaccines kill" and racism is a major part of Freenode's remaining membership.
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channels -- over 20K ... Why would someone let their channel remain there, given recent history?
servers over 20 ... if I was an organization sponsoring a server, I would talk to OFTC, LiberaChat, Rizon, and maybe a couple of other major #IRC networks to decide which network to move the sponsorship to.
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https://linux.chat/linux-on-freenode/
Another purge. Likely predates the database reset.
#Freenode #LiberaChat #IRC
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https://www.fsf.org/news/update-to-the-fsf-and-gnus-plan-to-move-irc-channels-to-libera.chat [www fsf org]
#FSF and #GNU #IRC channels to leave #Freenode. It was supposed to be an orderly transition with officially sponsored channels to be replaced with unofficial '##channelname' channels, but Freenode seized those channels suddenly.
Later on, they changed server software without transferring the user & channel databases, so every user and project choosing to remain there had to re-create from scratch.
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I guess some of https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Migrating_to_Libera_Chat is now unnecessary, since #Freenode wiped its database. It is likely that many formerly idling users will wind up moving to the #LiberaChat or #OFTC #IRC networks once they go to log in and find out their accounts and rooms no longer exist.
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I should find out whether #Darcs and #Pijul have #IRC channels set up for their users. It looks like #Fossil has an unofficial channel (latest info says it is on Freenode). I should also look for #Mercurial and #Git and #Breezy / #Bazaar.
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Pretty overwhelmingly against remaining on #Freenode. Seems pretty scattered on whether to choose #LiberaChat, #OFTC, some other #IRC network, or self-host.
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I have to read up on #IRC. In one room I'm in, someone set my account to +v and I don't know what it means. I mean, obviously, they granted me some extra privilege, which I don't know enough to even know how to use.
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This report makes it clear that it is now time for all projects to move off #Freenode #IRC. https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_abuse
You can move to #LiberaChat, to #OFTC, to #Rizon, etc. Or use #Matrix or an #XMPP MUC instead of IRC. Just don't "wait and see" and be surprised when your channel is targeted.
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So with all the fuss around #Freenode, I recently realized that I hadn't logged into #IRC directly (as opposed to through #Matrix) in a couple of years.
Checking, I found this:
* Freenode account: closed.
* OFTC account: still open, but since I had no IRC client installed, no idea what channels / rooms I used to use.
* Rizon account: still open, but no idea what channels / rooms I used to use.
* LiberaChat account: newly created.
I haven't ever really been a fan of IRC. I couldn't stand it at all until I started using #SILC several years back. (I haven't used that in at least 3-4 years. I should take a look at it, again. When I quit using it, the channels I used on the main silcnet.org network were mostly very quiet.)
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On the other hand, #Matrix's bridge to #Freenode seems to powercycle at least once per day, resulting in me being kicked out of rooms unless I identify to NickServ quickly enough. (If the #IRC side kicks you, the Matrix side obliges ... and the Element client does not even save that room so you can rejoin easily after you identify.
I dislike rejoining "#freenode_#roomname:matrix.org" so frequently. Maybe I should set up a bouncer and use and IRC client.
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It has been so long since I used my #Freenode #IRC logon directly (as distinct from the one that #Matrix created for me) that it is apparently closed.
I was surprised to find that I didn't even have an IRC client installed on this laptop.
I guess that is a sign that I am free to move to LiberaChat ... but I may just wait until #Matrix has bridging to that network and then allow it to create an account for me.
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The #Freenode takeover happened. https://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_461
The time may come for !gnusocial, #Friendica, #Mastodon, and other Fediverse software to move their #IRC channels to a different network. Hopefully, we can discuss and co-ordinate that move.