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@musicman They don't seem to be running Duckbot anymore, just grabbing results straight from #Bing. And Bing's results were almost as bad as Ask's, last time I checked.
So, yeah, I don't know how #DDG (and to some extent #Yahoo) were able to do it before, but their results were far better than Bing's despite mostly coming from Bing. Now, they're pretty similar ... and overall bad.
I still go to #DuckDuckGo first, but more and more, I find myself going to #Startpage or directly to #Google after a failed DDG search.
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> ... try Bing, I've heard it ... works alright.
No idea about their filters, but I consider #Bing a failure at search. Their results are barely better than #Ask.com these days. Both #Yahoo and #DDG use their backend, but somehow have better results (but both are in steep decline).
I do admit that it may vary based on the topics one searches for, but I've been trying out #Google alternatives for years, but no matter which I use, I eventually have to use Google (even if indirectly, such as via #StartPage or #Searx).
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I used to use #Startpage / #Ixquick, but they were taken over by a sketchy company with a history of questionable actions.
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad Be aware that #Startpage was apparently bought by an advertising analytics company. https://restoreprivacy.com/startpage-system1-privacy-one-group/ Probably not a search engine to recommend any more, even if you're willing to take the risk for your own searches.
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Deleting my bookmark for https://sarchy.tech/ ... it was using #YaCy (where peers crawl and index), but now it uses #Searx (which depends on the goodwill of corpocentric search providers).
Admittedly, Searx is likely to give better results, but why use them when #DDG and #Startpage do the same things, only better?
(And yes, DuckDuckGo's results have gotten much worse lately. Still not as bad as using #Bing directly, but I'm leaning more to Startpage these days.)
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@blort @johnnynull I noticed years ago that #DDG’s results differ from #Yahoo’s, which differ from #Bing’s. Non-bubbling may be part of it, but it doesn’t explain the sharply different results (or at least sort order of the results) between the Bing and Yahoo.
It doesn’t surprise me that #Startpage’s results differ from #Google’s, even beyond the filter bubble.
As for which to use, I use a variety, including Startpage, but the main one is determined mainly by quality of results, and Startpage’s results are generally inferior to #DuckDuckGo and to #Searx & #Seeks (but far superior to #YaCy or the abysmal results that #Ask gives).
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@geniusmusing #DDG is my primary search engine. #YaCy is my secondary. I still end up switching to #StartPage / #Google / #Seeks for 2 or 3 out of 10 searches because search results aren’t satisfactory.
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@xj9 #Searx still depends on #corpocentric search engines for its results. It therefore depends on their good will. In this way, it is similar to #Startpage / #Ixquick and #DDG.
I'd love to see a P2P search like #Yacy, but with good results.