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@musicman I’ve mostly stayed away from the #Java world the last few years. A combination of not being allowed to use it at work and seeing what #Oracle is doing to anyone that is immersed in that ecosystem.
But back in the day, I remember experimenting with McKoi and Apache Derby as part of a Java based help desk app I was writing.
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I have OpenJDK installed through my distro ... #Java is necessary for Jedit and Netbeans.
I have no need for things like #McKoi / McKoi DDB / #Derby / #HSQLDB / #H2 or even #Tomcat and #Jetty these days, but I'm very tempted to relearn some Java Servlet and JSP / JSF to create my personal site and using a Java based database as the backend.
Or #Velocity, if that's still around. I barely got to touch that, but it seemed to be a big step upward.
Still I was talking about things like someone wanting to donate a corporate sponsored JDK project to either Apache or Eclipse and Oracle nixing the whole thing. There are organizations now building upon DotNet partly because of that.