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  1. LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 06:46:46 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
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    • Kevin O'Brien
    • Ji Fu
    > The people moving from California are looking for lower taxes

    https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-6463-0ce9-9044-5af574010665

    Maybe some of them are. I'd guess most of them are primarily looking for lower real estate prices and shorter commutes.

    I know that I'm looking for:
    1. More frequent face-to-face with grandkids.
    2. Ability to work and live in the same area. Shorter commutes are better commutes.
    3. Lower real estate prices.

    Tax rates are not even on my radar, as everything you get from state and local government will have to be paid for somehow. In some states, it is income tax, in others, it is property tax. Still others have a flourishing industry that can be taxed instead of burdening the citizenry.

    As for term limits, I cannot speak to #Michigan's limits, as I don't live there; but #California's limits are beneficial. After a few terms in Sacramento, #pollies become evilized and accustomed to that power and lifestyle. At that point, they stop representing the needs of their constituents and serve only their party and the lobbyists. (In California, they are "legislative advocates", as the state constitution forbids lobbyists.)

    I understand that @ahuka believes that people get better at being legislators after a few years on the job. That is likely true. But a few more years and they don't improve. They may know the system better, but they don't use that knowledge to make the state better serve its people, and that is why term limits exist.

    @fu
    Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 06:46:46 UTC from nu.federati.net permalink
    • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 07:36:00 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
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      • Ji Fu
      > Elections should, at least in theory, be enough to remove representatives who are no longer representing you. With congressional reps having something of a 90% re-election rate, but like an 8% approval rating, I'm not sure if the problem is only a "lesser-of-two-evils" issue, or if voters like THEIR congressman, but think everyone else sucks.

      @fu The #twin_parties go out of their way to ensure that elections cannot easily overturn non-representative representatives. I'm sure you've heard of gerrymandering, but that's only part of what the parties do to deprive people of viable choices and stick them with the same crop of do-nothing-for-the-state's-people candidates.
      Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 07:36:00 UTC permalink
    • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 07:49:41 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
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      • Ji Fu
      > CA is losing residents hour-by-hour, many bound for Texas. So much that multiple U-Haul locations have run out of available rentals

      @fu I think there's more to it than that. Remember when #COVID-19 hit and as a result, travel & relocations cratered? Do you think U-haul, Ryder, Penske, etc continued to buy trucks? Not likely. So now, in addition to more people moving now that things are loosening up, there are fewer moving trucks available.

      Automobile rental companies did the same thing.

      But, yes, more US citizens are leaving #CA than are arriving. I think that has been true for about 20 years, but before, there were enough births and international arrivals to continue raising the state's population.
      Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 07:49:41 UTC permalink
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