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@shpuld @lain This is taught in US schools and promoted by US #pollies. It is false, of course, but higher education institutions like the vastly expanded number of students and funding, despite the fact that college/university is supposed to be about learning to think for yourself and not about job preparation (we have trade schools for that).
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@moonman @lain In some states, at least, Liberal Arts is the primary gateway to teaching programs. Also, LA majors as of a couple of years ago had higher 1 year employment than tech majors.
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I've also heard that LA majors do better in law school than most other majors because their background is more well-rounded.
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@lain @lnxw48a1 We have a completely fucked up loan system that is meant to make university affordable, it puts tons of people into college, loads them with debt. College offers worthless classes for students that possibly don't have the ability to take rigorous classes, then convinces them that late capitalism is the reason they are poor and can't find a job despite a college degree.
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@lain @moonman Some of those classes are required of all students. The two I sometimes mention are found in some form on most California State University campuses.
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@moonman @lnxw48a1 The whole thing is a scam as far as I can tell. For most people in terms of cost/benefit analysis it's literally not worth attending university since the time to return on investment is way too long.
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@moonman Part of the issue with loans is that Congress has not fully funded the grant program. So students who could escape the loan trap are forced to take loans. Secondly, though, the inflow of federal funds sparked a cost spiral: tuition & fees, textbooks & supplies, salaries. In the early #1980s, a California student could do two years at a community college for $12 + around $100 in books for each semester. That's less than $500 total. @lain
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@usblovedog @lain @moonman I actually think that any school that accepts federal student aid should be required to accept grants and work-study for the full balance. There should be no loans required. (This would likely weed out a lot of fly-by-night diploma mills overnight.)
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@bob @moonman Don't I know it! I still have over $50K in student loans (down from somewhere over $100K 15-20 years ago). A couple of years ago, I added up my loans plus #sonOne's loans plus #sonTwo's loans and it was over a quarter of a million dollars.
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... and that, my friends, is why so few younger / poorer folks are able to buy houses.
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@moonman @maiyannah @bob Yes, I've seen that happen. The job itself does not require a degree, but due to manager decisions, it does. I saw a Taco Bell location that had a sign on their door about hiring people to work as "shift manager" for a dollar or two above minimum wage. They required a 4 year degree.
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